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  Dr. James Penton - goin' up yonder dirt nap

  by Nathan Natas in

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  i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.

  "he was my friend" .

  "there will never be another of his ilk".

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  Nathan Natas

  Actually, Wingnut, 15 YEARS ago Farkel mentioned that The Reverend Professor Penton had used Farkel's work without attribution, and It was at about this same time on thins forum when I mentioned "Timothy White's" accusation against Penton and here where Penton denied it.

  But you didn't know that, did you?

  I think that one of Simon's projects for this site is to give it a world-class search capability that will make it far easier to find old posts. Once that is done, Wingnut, you be able to educate yourself.

  ...and I SO wanted you to admire me, Wingnut.
  
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  4 Year old JW has suicidal ideations?

  by usualusername1 in

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  today i made a post on linkedin about having suicidal thoughts since the age of 8. had lots of supportive comments.

  one lady said her son was suicidal from the age of 4. i was freaked out.

  then she sent me the message below.. i hope she was counting her time!.

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  I grant that MANY people in the world come from shittier backgrounds than I did, but my origin story is shitty enough. I'm not trying to score pity points. A child has no idea about whether his circumstanes are good or bad, they simply ARE what they ARE. It is only later as he is able to understand the variety if circumstances that he can figure out where on the SHIT bell curve he sits.
  

  I can remember wishing for non-existence when I was 7 or 8 years old. I'm 75 now. I've experimented several times throughout the years. I support the Hemlock Society. I'm not at all surprised to hear of others with similar experiences.

  Someday not too far from now my yearning for non-existence will be granted, but right now I have obligations more important than myself. When they are fulfilled I will vaporize like Melchizedek, and as I slip away I will smile and think "At last it is over."

  (Hebrews 7:3, states "Melchizedek had no father or mother, and there is no record of his ancestors. He was never born and never died.)
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  UNBELIEVABLE! Actual chat conversation with an active pioneer JW.

  by deaconbluez in

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  i don't think so lol.

  lol.

  lol.

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  I have a dream that one day men will be judged, not by the content of their character, but by the growth of their facial hair. I have a dream today.
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  Historian and former JW Jim Penton dies

  by slimboyfat in

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  i don’t know a lot about james penton but i think he deserves a better thread than the one currently on offer.

  james penton, who died recently, grew up in a jw family in canada and served as an elder.

  unusually for a jw, he studied liberal arts at university and became a history professor.

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  Nathan Natas

  Vanderhoven7 inquored, "Nathan,Are you feeling OK?"

  I'll be OK; I get nauseous in the presence of creature worship. It is almost as nauseating as the worship of imaginary creatures.

  How you doin'?
  
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  JW WOMAN VOLUNTEER CRUSHED BY A WALL AT A KINGDOM HALL PROJECT

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
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  https://youtu.be/1skm8riz7qc?si=ww3ej9orl_91db4w.

  the construction of a new jehovah’s witnesses kingdom hall in cybinka, poland, has once again shed light on the watchtower organization’s relentless drive to expand its real estate empire on the backs of unpaid, vulnerable volunteers.

  every day, around 40 jehovah’s witnesses show up at the construction site, some traveling long distances, not for pay or proper protection, but to fulfill a sense of “spiritual duty” instilled by the organization.

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  Well, there's always the ressurrec... oh, NEVERMIND.
  
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  Historian and former JW Jim Penton dies

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  i don’t know a lot about james penton but i think he deserves a better thread than the one currently on offer.

  james penton, who died recently, grew up in a jw family in canada and served as an elder.

  unusually for a jw, he studied liberal arts at university and became a history professor.

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  Penton was one HELL of a guy! He was the messiah, y'know!
  
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  Why do most Ex jW W‘s seem to be liberal?

  by JaredScott-1977 in

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  i’m just curious about this dynamic i don’t care personally one way or the other but i do have friends who have chosen to be conservatives and they get totally destroyed on social media pages for their choice.

  it’s almost like a lot of ex jw w become as toxic and his judgmental as jehovah’s witnesses themselves what’s up with that?

  i also know conservative ex jw’s that can do the same so again i’m not leaning one way or the other i’m just noticing factual observations.

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  Not I.

  "Mongol General: What is best in life?
  Conan: To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

  By Crom!
  
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  PRESIDENTIAL predictions...let the prognosticators have their say!

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.

  etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.

  ) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).

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  I think "Commie-La" is going to lose, BIG TIME. She has worked so hard - fabricating her history, wearing blackface, and Mistress of Word Salad - to earn this failure it would be wrong to deny it to her!
  
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  Dr. James Penton - goin' up yonder dirt nap

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.

  "he was my friend" .

  "there will never be another of his ilk".

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  Nathan Natas

  Dear everyone,

  Gorb asked it first:

  2 days ago

  Natas, what is your point?

  My point is that not everyone thought as much of the Reverend Penton as he did of himself. I was not one of his fans. He had an "xtians only" worldview and enjoyed hiding behind firewalls where he could mock atheists without fear of rebuttal, because his chosen site was "xtians only". Some of you might remember that I tracked down and met with "Timothy White," who wrote "A eople For His Name" in 1968. Tim told me that Penton had plagarized part of Tim's book; Penton denied this. I believe Tim.

  OK, Penton's books have helped people. But really it wasn't PENTON who helped them, it was the FACTS that helped people see the TRUTH. Remember that when Penton left the JWs he sought to gather his own flock unto him. FLOCK THAT! We are free human beings not followers of men!

  If you had to choose a person who was most helpful to the XJW community, who would you choose: Professor Penton or the subdued and nearly anonymous Atlantis?

  I put Penton in a class adjacent to Juan Pinecone (he whose name must not be spoken).

  You needn't agree with me, but I'll bet Farkel would have.
  
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  Dr. James Penton - goin' up yonder dirt nap

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.

  "he was my friend" .

  "there will never be another of his ilk".

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  Nathan Natas

  I saw a post on Reddit by "Big_Routine1112" announcing that James Penton died.

  Well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.

  As always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay WINS!

  "He was my friend"

  "There will never be another of his ilk"

  "I have rent my outer garmets"

  "I have soiled my inner garmets"

  "O woe is me"

  "Enoch, Elijah, Moses, and Penton; taken up in clouds"